Comments for IMSLP Journal http://imslpjournal.org Journal of the International Music Score Library Project/Petrucci Music Library - IMSLP Tue, 21 May 2013 04:51:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 Comment on Classical Music & Laughter by Albrecht http://imslpjournal.org/classical-music-laughter/#comment-12624 Albrecht Tue, 21 May 2013 04:51:02 +0000 http://imslpjournal.org/?p=1266#comment-12624 Although this gauntlet was thrown quite some time ago (and though nobody appears to have picket it up) I’d like to make a comment and illustrate with an example. Laughter in musical life does not have to originate in mishaps; no poor performer has to fall off stage for us to have a laugh (this kind of fun does not depend on music anyhow; it is just as funny (or not, depending on your taste) if a mediocre ham actor falls off stage while trying to show off.
There is however music that is outrageously witty. Haydn is famous for his humor, probably too famous (to me the farewell symphony is serious, the last movement rather melancholy and not funny–though the implied threat of a strike is certainly original and has not been made in this way again. And the surprise in the surprise symphony is not really all that funny).
Here is a very good example: Beethoven’s string quartet op. 18/6. The last movement has a slow introduction with the title “malinconia” which leads many writers of program booklets to suggest that the piece is dead serious. To me the introduction has never sounded tragic, hardly even melancholy. When the allegro gets underway it is clear that all “malinconia” is out the window. The movement is witty. At times it sounds as if the musicians have forgotten the key and are groping their way back to the correct harmony. The title “malinconia” is obviously ironic and part of the fun. Too bad very few quartets play it that way.
Or: from another era: Bach’s d-minor double concerto: Witty again the last movement with its syncopated rhythms and its plaintive melodies that suddenly appear out of nowhere and end just as abruptly.
Of course nobody laughs at concerts and few even hear the humor: We have been programmed to be serious in contemplation of such a piece of cultural heritage. Beethoven felt no such obligation apparently.

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Comment on Musical Villain Series: Recordings by Albrecht http://imslpjournal.org/musical-villain-series-recordings/#comment-12255 Albrecht Mon, 06 May 2013 06:24:55 +0000 http://imslpjournal.org/?p=1356#comment-12255 I am glad the new villain has appeared on the scene, though a non-human villain is less fun than a real-person-villain.
Having welcomed our new villain I think that recording technology has had more diverse effects, not just introduced a “decline” in artistry through “sterilizing” the music. Some of it I have already mentioned in the discussion on the last villain (Stravinsky), but I’ll repeat it here for completeness’ sake.
1. To be able to listen to one’s own playing has vastly improved people’s technical discipline. You blame the “downfall” you deplore largely on this effect. It is important to note though that there is nothing wrong with a good performance that I also free of technical errors (I have this formulation from a little booklet by Urs Frauchiger, the former director of the conservatory in Bern, Switzerland: “Was zum Teufel ist denn mit der Musik los?”, highly recommended if you can read German).
2. Also at least in part because of this we have much higher quality teaching and people have better and more solid basic technical skills, than people at the same level in the music making hierarchy used to have, from amateurs to top soloists. This is a good thing; it should–among other advantages–help cut down on professional medical problems like tendonitis.
3. It has made classical music accessible to a much larger group of people. Obviously a good thing.
4. Niche markets in the overall market in recordings have been discovered, most importantly the period instrument ensembles, which started out from more academic types, but also included people who could succeed in this more sheltered niche who would be just (more or less sound) average interpreters in the general market. I strongly believe without recording we would still be practically clueless about the baroque (in my youth–not that long ago–Bach and Handel together were baroque music, besides a few unimportant Italian and French composers). I will disclose here that I am sometimes tempted to cast period instrument playing as the villain. But this is a different though related topic.
5. An over-emphasis on technique and–even more–beautiful tone has had bad effects. However, I think we are climbing out of this particular hole; at least for chamber music there are numerous newer ensembles from many countries who have made wonderful recordings (with technical perfection the icing on the great cake).
So: overall I am thinking we should not complain too much about the state of music just now; we are moving in the right direction or at least many performers are moving there these days.

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Comment on Musical Villain Series: Did Stravinsky Ruin Music? by Albrecht http://imslpjournal.org/musical-villain-series-did-stravinsky-ruin-music/#comment-11592 Albrecht Sun, 31 Mar 2013 21:41:40 +0000 http://imslpjournal.org/?p=1343#comment-11592 This is very interesting; I know nothing about it. It means Stravinsky is innocent no matter who is correct in the controversy here.
However, you end your comment with the “far more subtle point” Stravinsky was making. Do you think you have time to expand on this a little and let us know?

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Comment on Musical Villain Series: Did Stravinsky Ruin Music? by GW http://imslpjournal.org/musical-villain-series-did-stravinsky-ruin-music/#comment-11568 GW Fri, 29 Mar 2013 15:08:08 +0000 http://imslpjournal.org/?p=1343#comment-11568 I’m sorry, but this article is wrong on some basic facts. Stravinsky was never a “frequent lecturer” at Harvard, nor did he publish many articles. He gave the Norton Lectures in Poetry at Harvard in 1939-40, reading from a manuscript which had largely been prepared by Roland Manuel, delivered in French and published only in 1947 in English as the Poetics of Music. His remaining public writings were his (also ghost-written) 1936 autobiography, Chronicles of My Life (which does not make any argument of the sort described in this item) and, much later, the dialog books with Robert Craft. The scarcity of his writings and their late transmission should be rather strong evidence that Stravinsky was not the rhetorical driver in any dogma of the sort described here and his writings concern performer’s restraint with regard to individual expression convey a far more subtle point.

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Comment on Nigerian Organ Culture by Segun Akinfenwa http://imslpjournal.org/nigerian-organ-culture/#comment-10822 Segun Akinfenwa Tue, 05 Feb 2013 07:57:41 +0000 http://imslpjournal.org/?p=941#comment-10822 Organ culture in Nigeria is witnessing a mini-revival now that we have Electronic Organs built by Nigerian organist and for Nigerian congregation.
Sanus Domino Organ worth mentioning.

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Comment on Musical Villain Series: Did Stravinsky Ruin Music? by Albrecht http://imslpjournal.org/musical-villain-series-did-stravinsky-ruin-music/#comment-10157 Albrecht Tue, 25 Dec 2012 22:46:37 +0000 http://imslpjournal.org/?p=1343#comment-10157 I just noticed that–apart from some examples–my own favorite area, chamber music has not been introduced into this discussion. It offers some different angles.

Following up on the example of the sidedrummer who could, if he wanted, “sabotage” a performance of “Boléro” by keeping to accelerate (he might well risk his job doing that on purpose; conductors as a rule are more dictatorial than composers): this can happen in chamber music: if any one member of the ensemble keeps accelerating the others can’t do anything but to follow, at least to the next G.P. (If one person drags there is a good chance to “fix” it while playing, but slowing a colleague down is impossible even to the person who is supposed to lead at that particular passage). More importantly though, in the absence of a conductor every decision is up for debate, sometimes heated. So now we have the text of the composer PLUS several versions of the interpreters to somehow fit into a coherent result. Most debate in my experience involves no change to the text; just different yet legitimate readings of it.

Which brings me to Shostakovich’s piano trio (no. 2), which I once worked on for performance with my friends (I should admit to being an amateur; our coach suggested the choice, but it was one of the highlights of my musical life and we gave a creditable performance for our friends).

We listened to several recordings to see what other people made of it. It turns out that some people have actually changed the text and added glissandi and much later than Cortot. In the first trio section of the scherzo there are a sort of “inverted sigh” motives, with a crescendo on the long note and with the short noted loudest, played with up bow in the strings. The recording with Yo Yo Ma for example (others also) plays these motives glissando. Gidon Kremer on the Argerich/Maisky/Kremer recording (extremely impressive though very opposite to Shostakovich’s own style) does very ugly things with glissando in the last movement. There is glissando in the score, but not at these places.

There is a recording around with Shostakovich, Oistrach and a Hungarian cellist (Milos Sadlo?) from 1948 (plus or minus a year or two). There is none of that on it, the whole recording is dry and matter of fact, just giving the music as written. The piano playing is far from perfect technically (I believe Sh.’s had disease had already started; the strings are flawless). The tempi are fast, almost as fast as the metronome markings, there is hardly any rubato, the dynamic range is relatively modest, no screeching fff (though fff occurs at several places in the score; there may be technical reasons for that though).
Yet the performance is incredibly alive and in large part it comes from Sh.’s piano playing, particularly also when accompanying: the way staccato is differentiated, rhythm is subtly underlined is masterful and utterly devoid of performer-vanity. To me it is the best recording of the piece I have heard (the trio is considerably more impressive live, so don’t miss a chance to hear it).

This I think is the art of performance at its best: reproducing the score as written and filling it with life by means of phrasing, accenting, articulating the notes and phrases. No gimmick can live up to such an achievement.

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Comment on Musical Villain Series: Did Stravinsky Ruin Music? by Albrecht http://imslpjournal.org/musical-villain-series-did-stravinsky-ruin-music/#comment-10152 Albrecht Tue, 25 Dec 2012 16:24:11 +0000 http://imslpjournal.org/?p=1343#comment-10152 It seems I have to explain my allusion with the opera singers. There is a sort of opera lovers, who always think that the art of singing is disappearing from the world and that nobody can quite sing like Caruso (or Callas) anymore nowadays. There are also movie lovers who think nobody nowadays matches up to Hitchcock or Laurence Olivier or Charlie Chaplin. What I tried to hint–half seriously–is that Nick belongs to this group and thinks that nobody nowadays plays the piano as well as Cortot, nobody the violin like Kreisler etc.

And it is true that Cortot and Kreisler (and Callas) died before any of the three of us has a chance to hear them live.

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Comment on Musical Villain Series: Did Stravinsky Ruin Music? by Oliver Barton http://imslpjournal.org/musical-villain-series-did-stravinsky-ruin-music/#comment-10074 Oliver Barton Thu, 20 Dec 2012 12:02:33 +0000 http://imslpjournal.org/?p=1343#comment-10074 Nicholas, I think you’re rather subverting the very important issues you raised in your original article, which, if I read it correctly, are:
1. Has the modern performer lost interpretative freedoms that they used legitimately to have to alter what has been prescribed by a composer?
2. Does a composer disempower interpretative performers by trying to dictate to precisely to them what they must do in every respect, and thus sterilises the music?

And that collectively, these have sterilised musical performance.

Let me try to address these.

1. I never heard Cortot live, and probably neither you nor Albrecht did. We have read about him and listened to his recordings – and both of you have qualms about what recordings have done to musical performance. His live performances were probably inspirational, and if we had been there, we probably would have forgiven the wrong notes and memory lapses, and never have forgotten the occasion, but we don’t know this first-hand. It is invidious to hold him up as a shining example of performance practice and the power of the interpreter under these circumstances. Witnessed live (if live performance is important), most of us most of the time experience less than brilliant performances by less than brilliant performers. How much license would you like them to have? Where Bernstein can decide to double a composer’s tempo marking, with his background as performer, composer and generally rather flamboyant musical genius, I’m not sure that I’d want Fred Bloggs, plumber by day, who conducts the Smallsville Amateur Symphony Orchestra to feel he has the interpretative authority to do the same. But he can still inspire his players to produce a performance that is as true to the score as the players’ faulty techniques allow, and nevertheless excites and moves the audience, who maybe last heard a live orchestra at their last concert six months ago. Or it may be a rubbish performance and I find I’m bored to tears. But whichever, that’s not sterility in my book.

I reiterate that there are copious possibilities of interpretative freedom in the scores of all composers, even those who smother their scores with interpretation marks (like Ustvolskaya, for example – how would Cortot have interpreted her music? There’s a question for you!).

2. A composer, through notation or lack of it, tries to enable performers to recreate what he hears in his head or otherwise imagines. The composer can choose deliberately to leave major decisions up to the performers (like instrumentation, or tempo, or pitches, or indeed everything, in the case of some graphic scores), or to chance (as in some of Cage’s works). With other parameters, the composer will expect certain conventions of his time. For example, in Renaissance and Baroque times, he would expect that performers would add their own ornamentation whether he liked it or not. As you say, Albrecht, Bach might sometimes strive to prevent it by writing the ornamentation out in full, so there was no room for the performer to add more (I bet that didn’t stop some of them, though!), but otherwise it was likely to happen. Puccini could write I think it is an eight note top C in Nessun Dorma, but would have known full well that tenors would dwell there for as long as their technique would allow, ignoring the score and milking the applause for all they’re worth. He would know that. Why didn’t he write a long note with a hefty pause on it? Did he actually wish the tenors would shut up and get on with the plot, or did he happily accept it?

But whatever you may say, Nicholas, and whatever the composer may write, there is always a lot of interpretative freedom possible while adhering to the score.
This is not to say that composers are always best judges when it comes to those parameters that they do prescribe – far from it. But who is to decide that they are wrong in major ways? A great artist, like Cortot or Bernstein? A maverick like Glenn Gould? Another composer? Any old Tom, Dick or Harry? Well, yes, of course, any of them! Who’s to stop them? But who’s performance would you want to hear? For my first encounter with a piece, I’d rather like to hear a reasonable stab at what the composer intended, as far as that can be done. If I hear it lots of times, I’d be interested in what other performers can do with it without straying too far from the composer’s markings. And then sometimes, for variety, I like to hear other more extreme interpretations. But first, let’s hear what the composer’s saying.

I put it to you, as a conductor, Nicholas, what would your feeling be if you were conducting Ravel’s Bolero and the side-drum player decided, as an interpretative act, to perform a gradual and continuous accelerando through the piece – something that would be very hard to ignore and fight against. You’d either have to stop the piece or go with him. I understand that it is a gruelling part for the side-drum on account of its excessive repetitiveness, and an accel would really express his frustration. And it could be enormously exciting! But you’re the conductor, it’s in performance, what do you do? Pat him on the back at the end and say “Great to hear you expressing yourself!” Or do you say “You fired! I make the artistic decisions!” Who’s the performer? Who does the expressing? Remember Ravel didn’t rate it much as a piece of music.

As a footnote, concerning opera singers, there are those I like and those I dislike from all eras. My opinion is frequently not the same as the critics or popular opinion. Ah, critics! There’s another beef for you Nicholas! What power do they have and what good and what damage have they done over the years?

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Comment on Musical Villain Series: Did Stravinsky Ruin Music? by NLewis http://imslpjournal.org/musical-villain-series-did-stravinsky-ruin-music/#comment-10072 NLewis Thu, 20 Dec 2012 00:46:42 +0000 http://imslpjournal.org/?p=1343#comment-10072 I actually think a lot of opera singers can sing these days – even the ones who are not so famous. A couple of days ago I was with Kara Shay Thomson, and she is a fantastic singer. Good musicians do exist these days, they are just hard to come by. Also, I do not particularly like Maria Callas. But that aside, it turns out that opera singers are usually the most musical of the batch. As much as I often dislike jazz, I think that jazz musicians are superior in this day and age to classical musicians for the reasons I’ve been hashing. Classical music used to be approached much more like jazz is approached now.

When I conduct I sometimes use an idea that was often utilized by Stokowski called “free bowing”. The composers would likely dislike this idea as we ignore the bowing written on the page in order to achieve a musically lush tone. And I have to say, although “appeal to authority” is a fallacy, I come to the following ultimatum: good enough for Stokowski, good enough for me.

And what do you think about Bernstein conducting Shostakovich’s fifth symphony? Did you know that he changed the tempo of the final part of the finale to about twice the written speed?

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Comment on Musical Villain Series: Did Stravinsky Ruin Music? by Albrecht http://imslpjournal.org/musical-villain-series-did-stravinsky-ruin-music/#comment-10069 Albrecht Wed, 19 Dec 2012 22:41:24 +0000 http://imslpjournal.org/?p=1343#comment-10069 This is a great way to say what I have been trying to get at, Oliver. To your points:

1. Your anecdote recalls something I left out of earlier posts to save space: there is a privilege in working with composers who are alive: you can ask them to explain their vision; you can even challenge them on their decisions. This conductor is suggesting a very major change to your piece; the entire trajectory of your music is altered (personally often wince when “amen” comes along as an exhilarating fugue undergirded by trumpets and timpani, though that happens quite often–even the words “dona nobis pacem” at the end have this upbeat-ending-tone in so many masses. So–though not knowing the piece–I’d risk to say I’d prefer your version of it.) If you want to accept his suggestion or argue against it is of course your decision. There is the story about the Violin sonata by Cesar Franck: Ysaye wanted to play it slower than the composer had envisioned it and Franck actually changed the tempo marking of the first movement to sanction the change (this is of course a much smaller change than the one in your anecdote). So it is possible for an interpreter to see things differently from the composer and be “right” about it. But we can not go and ask Mozart about it and this puts more responsibility on the performer.

2. & 3. The conventions of the time of the composition do matter in my opinion (though it is also important to remember that we are playing Vivaldi to people who have heard Shostakovich; Vivaldi’s vision is possibly better served by using more modern conventions such as “well tempered” tuning than by painstaking imitation of baroque practice). But the fact is that our understanding of these conventions keeps changing and is not always accurate. Example: Mozart- and Haydn-symphonies are typically played nowadays (not in my youth) with 6 first violins, maybe 30 musicians total, because few venues were able to mobilize more than those back in Mozart’s day. But there is a letter by Mozart to his father where he described a performance of one of his symphonies with 40(!) violins and all winds doubled (I believe in Mannheim). He obviously loved it. It seems we have set ourselves a rule that Mozart would not have supported. For Baroque: I still remember “Terassendynamik”, the idea that everybody handled dynamics the way a harpsichord has to (due to technical limitations) and that there were no crescendi or diminuendi, just abrupt changes. Nowadays it seems absurd. Also: The continuo has been played by a basse instrument (Cello, Bassoon) combined with a chord instrument (harpsichord, organ, lute etc.) for quite some time now. But then came Andrew Manze and claimed that new evidence suggested that the correct execution is with harpsichord alone…
The fact is that we don’t have all that many sources (Leopold Mozart’s “Violinschule” and Quantz’s book about the flute are the most often quoted sources and they deal primarily with technical problems; besides they come very close to the end of the baroque) about this stuff. There is an edition of the Corelli sonatas (from those days) with embellishments which the editor claims were the ones Corelli himself used in performance. If you look at them closely you see that they often cut against the phrasing of the original (i.e. the un-embellished text of Corelli); I can’t imagine that a composer would embellish his works like that.

And Bach of course (also Handel in some works) wrote out the embellishments (almost always); no point in adding a second layer. Depending on the character and function of the movement in question there is more and less embellishing going on, a sarabande has less of it than a slow movement in a sonata etc.

Choral trills are technically demanding and eat lots of rehearsal time. I can understand if amateur performers sing the works without the trills. And I think that this compromise is better than a trill that is just a “cluster” of people trying supervibrato. Not even all soloists can sing proper trills.

4. On this just a question: repeats are often skipped (though not as often in the age of the CD as they were when the LP was the recording medium…). As a composer what do you think about that? In many works there are prima volta / seconda volta endings that strongly suggest that the composer envisioned the repeat. Also separate markings for the first and second time (Haydn, emperor quartet, first movement, “seconda volta piu presto” for the coda).

I’d like to reformulate what you say at the end from the composer’s point of view to reflect the performer’s task: The source for the composer’s vision is the score (in vocal works also the text); it is the primary guide. The task then is to discover, re-envision the composer’s vision through study of the score and to find means to make this vision sound. My point in all this has been that there is plenty to do which does not involve changes to the text of the score; you can follow every marking conscientiously and still produce live (in the literal sense of the word) performances. Which would mean that more freedom for performers is not a necessary recipe against “sterility”.

NLewis, you seem to me to resemble those opera fans who are convinced that the true art of singing has been lost and nobody can sing nowadays like Maria Callas. When Callas was alive and active of course the same people said nobody could sing like Malibran…

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